Locution of July 20, 1963

The locution took place in the village church which is significant because of the relationship of this place of worship to priests. On leaving the church, Conchita mentioned that she had just experienced a locution with Our Lord. A priest asked her, if she would put the conversation in writing. She went immediately to the sacristy and quickly wrote the following report:

As I was thanking God and asking for certain things, he answered me.

I asked him to give me the cross, for I am living without any suffering other than that of not having a cross. As I was asking this of Jesus he replied.

"Yes, I will give you the cross."

With great emotion I went on asking other things and said: "Why is the miracle going to take place? To convert many people?"

"To convert the hole world -- Para convertir al mundo entero" he answered. [Our Lord indicates here the world wide importance of the Garabandal event.]

"Will Russia be converted?," I asked.

"Yes, she will be converted and thus everybody -- todos -- will love our Hearts." 1

"And will the chastisement come after that?," I continued.

He did not answer me.

"Why do you come to my poor undeserving heart?," I inquired.

"The fact is, I am not have come for you, I have come for everybody -- todos," he replied.

"When the miracle takes place, will it be thought that I was the only one who saw the Blessed Virgin -- El milagro, va a ser como si yo sola fuera la que he visto a la Virgen?" 2

"By your sacrifices and your patience, I am allowing you to play a part in bringing about the miracle," he replied.

"Isn't it better that I be joined to the others in this role of intercession, or that you give it to none of us?," I asked.

"No," he answered.

"Will I go to heaven?"

"If you love much and pray to our Hearts," he replied.

"When will you give me the cross?"

He did not answer me.

"What will I be?"

He did not answer my question. All he said was that "Wherever I might be and whatever I might do, I would have much to suffer."

"Will I die soon?," I inquired.

"You must remain on earth to help the world," he replied.

"I am worth so little, I wouldn't be of any help," I said to him.

"By your prayers and your sufferings, you will help the world," he replied.

"When a person goes to heaven, is he dead when he goes?"

"A person never dies," he answered.

(I thought we didn't go to heaven until we had risen from the dead.)

"I asked him if Saint Peter was at the gates of heaven to receive us, and he said, "no."

While I was engaged in this prayer or conversation with God, I felt as though I was outside the world.

Jesus told me that now there are more people who love his heart.

Concerning priests, he told me that we should pray much for them so that they may be holy and fulfill their duty properly and make others better. "May they make me known to those who do not know me, and may they make me loved by those who know but do not love me."


1 In October of 1968, two Americans from the state of New York, Mr. & Mrs. Robert Froehlich, asked Conchita this question: "It is said, Conchita, that after the miracle, Russia will be converted. Is this true?" She replied: "In the locution with Our Lord in 1963, I asked the question about the conversion of Russia. The answer was that Russia will be converted as the consequence of the miracle."

2 Conchita is concerned about having her three friends share in all her privileges and favors. She discussed this matter several times with Our Lady.

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